In this episode, we have a Data-Centric Design conversation with Samuel Huron about Making with Data. Samuel is an information designer and associate professor in the Design of information technologies inside the Social and Economical Science department of Télécom Paris (https://www.telecom-paris.fr/) at the Institut Polytechnique de Paris, and part of the CNRS Institut Interdisciplinaire de l’Innovation. His research address how humans create visual and physical representations of abstract information to think, collaborate, learn, analyze, explore, and design new data representations, systems, and information artifacts.